It seems like a bizarre state of affairs. But I'm afraid to say, it's just the system taking itself to the logical conclusion.
Nothing is what it seems:
The Prime Minister is a bully and a fake and mostly into advertising and incompetent at those things and most others.
Albanese is goaded into calling himself not 'Woke'. About as useful as declaring yourself not to be a Nazi after someone calls you a Nazi? And of all the people to emulate/admire, it's John W. Howard...
So basically, Albanese is John Howard's eyebrows, the guy who had children thrown overboard (but just kidding!), who had his core and non-core promises, who had his alternative facts to the 'black armband' view of history, whose greatest achievements in government (so he said himself) was that they had 'contained wage costs', ie. kept your wages from rising for a decade or more. And this is the guy who committed Australia to invading Iraq and Afghanistan.
Apart from that, yeah, Howard's a friggin' genius. Knock yourself out buddy.
There's some chance of that, and it might improve climate policy, but not tax and expenditure, where Indies would go along with Labor. And if Labor needed all Indies + Greens, I suspect one of more of the Indies might cut a deal with Morrison
Certainly, much of Labor's case for a change of government would collapse if Frydenberg replaced Morrison. Hard to see much difference between him and, say, Chalmers.
Hmmm hard one. 'Having trouble overcoming distrust again. Disgusted by Scomo and his cohorts - slimy fakery, distain for electors, gold-plated arrogance.
The labor people just not game to say out loud what we really need - politicians with balls and brains, who have to courage to say what needs to be done, not just smooge us, hoping to be voted in 'cos the LNP is so below par.
Yeah another election where we have to vote against what we don't want, not what we do want.
The Labor strategy is to stay in power for several terms so they can entrench sustainable reforms. This means they will not be radical in their first term if they win. But they figure the only way to entrench significant reform is to do it slowly. They are sick of pushing through significant reforms, then losing power and seeing the Conservatives reverse most of their reforms. I don't know if they're right, but they are correct that it takes time to reverse the damage the Conservatives do. So restoring the public service will take at least 6 years. And the state of the media is now appalling so fixing that will be a herculean task, and fixing that is almost a precondition for sustainable reform. I wish I could see a workable alternative to the Labor strategy.
The Rudd-Gillard government pushed through plenty of reforms that stuck - NDIS, plain packaging for cigarettes, NBN (admittedly messed up by Turnbull, but we still have it). I don't see any evidence that Albo Labor has big reforms in mind.
You're right that as a matter of strategy they don't have big reforms in mind for the first term. Though the reforms they do plan for climate change, independent corruption agency, infrastructure, aged care and child care are not insignificant. The test will come during the first term as to whether they use that term to build for major reforms in the future or act just to retain power. The latter will be the result if Chalmers and Marles etc end up dominating the process. But we don't know yet where it will end up. The power struggle during the first term (if that eventuates) will be intense, and at present the power obsessed unfortunately do seem to have the upper hand - especially on the economic side.
I think Albo and the ALP have been consistently making statements and taking positions that are at odds with what they actually believe. I think this is driven by the iron logic of their electoral strategy. The question I keep coming back to is what they will do and say if they win government and are then obliged by events to govern in ways at odds with their rhetoric of reassurance.
My fear is that their statements are quite consistent with their beliefs. Even if not, I think they will act in line with the statements, not the beliefs.
I won't try to dissuade you. Cultivate a healthy disdain for all of them. They are mere courtiers of the oligarchs.
My sentiments exactly.
It seems like a bizarre state of affairs. But I'm afraid to say, it's just the system taking itself to the logical conclusion.
Nothing is what it seems:
The Prime Minister is a bully and a fake and mostly into advertising and incompetent at those things and most others.
Albanese is goaded into calling himself not 'Woke'. About as useful as declaring yourself not to be a Nazi after someone calls you a Nazi? And of all the people to emulate/admire, it's John W. Howard...
So basically, Albanese is John Howard's eyebrows, the guy who had children thrown overboard (but just kidding!), who had his core and non-core promises, who had his alternative facts to the 'black armband' view of history, whose greatest achievements in government (so he said himself) was that they had 'contained wage costs', ie. kept your wages from rising for a decade or more. And this is the guy who committed Australia to invading Iraq and Afghanistan.
Apart from that, yeah, Howard's a friggin' genius. Knock yourself out buddy.
What are your views on a deliberative parliament, with the BoP with indies/Greens? Or is it so unlikely as to not be worth thinking about?
There's some chance of that, and it might improve climate policy, but not tax and expenditure, where Indies would go along with Labor. And if Labor needed all Indies + Greens, I suspect one of more of the Indies might cut a deal with Morrison
Or, as some have commented, one or more of the Indies might cut a deal with a Liberal who isn't Morrison.
Certainly, much of Labor's case for a change of government would collapse if Frydenberg replaced Morrison. Hard to see much difference between him and, say, Chalmers.
Hmmm hard one. 'Having trouble overcoming distrust again. Disgusted by Scomo and his cohorts - slimy fakery, distain for electors, gold-plated arrogance.
The labor people just not game to say out loud what we really need - politicians with balls and brains, who have to courage to say what needs to be done, not just smooge us, hoping to be voted in 'cos the LNP is so below par.
Yeah another election where we have to vote against what we don't want, not what we do want.
The Labor strategy is to stay in power for several terms so they can entrench sustainable reforms. This means they will not be radical in their first term if they win. But they figure the only way to entrench significant reform is to do it slowly. They are sick of pushing through significant reforms, then losing power and seeing the Conservatives reverse most of their reforms. I don't know if they're right, but they are correct that it takes time to reverse the damage the Conservatives do. So restoring the public service will take at least 6 years. And the state of the media is now appalling so fixing that will be a herculean task, and fixing that is almost a precondition for sustainable reform. I wish I could see a workable alternative to the Labor strategy.
The Rudd-Gillard government pushed through plenty of reforms that stuck - NDIS, plain packaging for cigarettes, NBN (admittedly messed up by Turnbull, but we still have it). I don't see any evidence that Albo Labor has big reforms in mind.
You're right that as a matter of strategy they don't have big reforms in mind for the first term. Though the reforms they do plan for climate change, independent corruption agency, infrastructure, aged care and child care are not insignificant. The test will come during the first term as to whether they use that term to build for major reforms in the future or act just to retain power. The latter will be the result if Chalmers and Marles etc end up dominating the process. But we don't know yet where it will end up. The power struggle during the first term (if that eventuates) will be intense, and at present the power obsessed unfortunately do seem to have the upper hand - especially on the economic side.
I think Albo and the ALP have been consistently making statements and taking positions that are at odds with what they actually believe. I think this is driven by the iron logic of their electoral strategy. The question I keep coming back to is what they will do and say if they win government and are then obliged by events to govern in ways at odds with their rhetoric of reassurance.
My fear is that their statements are quite consistent with their beliefs. Even if not, I think they will act in line with the statements, not the beliefs.
This is what I describe as their "trust that we're lying" policy as opposed to their "less of the same" policy.
It doesn't make me happy that nearly everyone seems to agree with me.